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NINA MYERS: It didn't have to be like this, Jack. I never meant for it to be personal. - "24"
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"And when she was bad... She was wicked" 24
Magazine issue #5 (January 2007)
by Tara DiLullo
Ah, Nina Myers she may have made Jacks life a
living hell, but it certainly was entertaining watching her cause
havoc wherever she went actress Sarah Clarke shares her
thoughts on playing one of TVs wickedest female
villains
Jack Bauer has faced a veritable rogues gallery of memorable bad
guys over his worst 120 hours. From extreme terrorists, to swayed
mentors, and even a corrupt President, hes fought them all.
But not one of them has ever lived up to the villainy of
Jacks ultimage foe Nina Myers. Introduced in Season
One as Jacks colleague at CTU and former lover during his
separation from his wife Teri, Nina worked side by side with him,
helping to find his daughter and save the life of Presidential
candidate David Palmer. It wasnt until the final episodes
of the season that Nina was revealed to be the CTU mole. As if
that wasnt bad enough, she truly crossed the line when she
murdered Teri Bauer in cold blood before she was eventually
caught and incarcerated for her treasonous actions.
Proving you cant keep a wicked and captivating villain
down, Nina Myers returned to vex Jack Bauer in Season Two, and
for one, final climactic showdown in Season Three, when justice
finally caught up with the shady dame. Actress Sarah Clarke says
playing nasty Nina over three seasons, for all her faults and
flaws, provided her with some of the best challenges of her
career. Clarke turned what could have been a one-note treasonous
bitch into a finely tuned performance with surprising layers and
blistering on-screen chemistry with Kiefer Sutherland. Behind the
scenes, 24 also ended up playing matchmaker in her personal life,
connecting her with fellow actor Xander Berkeley, who played
George Mason on Seasons One and Two. Clarke continues to work on
television in shows like Las Vegas, Commander in Chief, and
House. Clarke dusts off her Nina days once more to chat about
landing the role and the art of perfecting being very,
very bad.
24 Magazine: How did you land the role of Nina?
Sarah: I came into it very late. I was in New York and the
producers flew me out to L.A. During pilot season, you are
reading so many different scripts and I remember really liking
24, but I didnt really take notice of the real-time
concept. I just sort of went, Oh, yeah, yeah,
whatever. So I flew out to test for the network. In the
morning, I tested and that afternoon I was shooting, so it was
very last minute! They had been looking for a Nina and they were
ready to go. For me, to go that quickly into the project, you get
a sense of your character, but you dont get a sense of the
whole. In the pilot, there was ambiguity about who was who. When
I was thrown into CTU, my whole thing was about hierarchy. Who is
my boss? In my relationship with Kiefer, yes, we had been
lovers, but I was still wondering if I was a secretary.
Like, who am I? They showed me the desk where I would be working
and it still wasnt clear. They said that I was the Chief of
Staff but then it turns out that I was Tonys partner, so it
morphed. Because the CIA is so hard to research, everyone was
making it up and we had to really focus on relationships.
Nina was very much portrayed with ambiguity at the start of
the season. Did the producers prompt that from you?
As far as ambiguity, they did say in the CIA you never know
whos got what information, and information is power.
Its all on a need to know basis. There was always this idea
that you know something I dont and you try to get it from
that person. Clearly, I had no clue about being the mole. No one
knew about that until much later.
Did you wonder who the mole was all season, like the audience
did?
Yeah. I remember wandering into a production office and I saw one
of the brainstorming boards and I remember seeing mole
possibilities and one of them was Alberta Green. I think even she
was too obvious, but that was all I ever saw.
When did they tell you Nina was the mole? Literally, I think I got it four [episodes] from the end.
Honestly, I think they thought of it 16 [episodes] into the
season.
After spending a season seemingly helping Jack, was the mole
twist surprising to you too?
Yeah! I was naïve and thought, Yeah, I love Jack and
Im the one who helps him. Certainly, when they told
me, I was blindsided, then I was really excited. For the first
two minutes, I was like, Wait a minute, there is no way. I
have been playing it this way. But then talking to Joel
[Surnow] and really fleshing it out, it made perfect sense that I
played a great double agent.
Is it your opinion that Nina was always evil?
I dont think I started off bad and I dont think a lot
of people that do bad things start there.
One of the highlight moments for Nina in Season One was when
Jack shot her and left her for dead at the bottom of
a hill. Did you do your own stunts?
I had an amazing stunt double and she went down the hill. I
watched her do it three times and I was like, Wow! She
makes that look really good.
Was that a memorable scene to shoot?
Absolutely. There is a funny story about the shooting of that
episode. We do a lot of things in the Valley and we shot in
Canoga Park. It was very complex because they had the video
cameras in the car as well as the film cameras shooting the
action. When we were filming the scene with the film camera, we
were being pulled by a flat bed so you do the things where you
are turning but you really arent worried about driving.
When we first shot the scene, it was noon and there werent
many people on the street. When we shot the video coverage that
has to synch up, they sent us out in a car and it was now full of
traffic. Things werent synching up, plus we were stopped
and Kiefer has a big gun on me. The show hadnt aired yet so
no one knew what we were doing and I remember this woman looking
over and she looks at us like, What the hell is going
on? He just looked at her and was like, Ha, ha!
She just looked more nervous after that! (laughs)
Did you ever get injured on the show?
Certainly you come away with some bruises when you do a show like
this and I think I got even more beat up in the second season!
With Nina captured at the end of Season One and hauled off to
jail, did you ever think you would come back?
Initially, I didnt tell as single soul that I was the mole.
When my agent found out she was like, What?! I
thought it was great and fun and she was like, What does
this mean? So when they did say I was coming back, they
didnt know for how many [episodes]. I knew I had to take
everything with a grain of salt. I think I was just getting to
the point of repetition until I was revealed as the mole and then
that was comforting. When they told me I was coming back, I knew
that my story was going to be amazing because however I was
coming back, it wasnt going to be extended to linger, so
you get a concise, great story.
What was it like returning to the show for the second season?
Xander and I had gotten married between the seasons. The funny
thing was that when I did come back to work we had been in Mexico
and were both nicely tanned. So I thought I was in a prison and
had a nice glow from working in the prison yard and Xander has
been radiated and he can have a nice glow too. (laughs)
How was it confronting Jack Bauer again as Nina in Season
Two?
I had the most fun in the second season because I really loved
the storyline. Everything was so dynamic. Its really lucky
when you have a set-up when so many things are unsaid between
characters. As long as you trust the energy of the other person,
its all going to translate.
After toying with Jack for another season without dying, the
odds of Nina returning in Season Three must have been pretty
good?
Its a weird thing and it was always up in the air if I was
going to come back like they mentioned at the end of season two.
They even said it would be one scene and it would be a guy on a
boat and he would say, Its done. I didnt
hear anything else about it and then it didnt happen. When
I saw the finale, I saw they brought Mia Kirshner back. (Nina
or rather a Nina stand in actually did make an
appearance, but it was dropped from the episode. You can find it
in the Deleted Scenes on the Season Two DVD).
Did you have any requests for the character pending your
return in Season Three?
They did say to me that in Season Three there was the potential
of Kiefer coming after me for the whole season. Of course, when
they did bring me back I was excited because its always fun
to return. But the one thing I did say was, Please
dont torture me for six episodes. I didnt want
it to be about horrible torture. Its draining, physically,
and I knew that could be the potential when you are the bad
person.
Were there any actors in particular you enjoyed playing
against that year?
The guys they got to play the Salazar brothers, Joaquim de
Almeida and Vincent Laresca, were wonderful to work with and they
had a great storyline.
Was there an overall personal highlight for you working on
the show?
The show was such a wild ride to begin with but meeting Xander
was quite the highlight. Its always exciting when you are
at the inception of a show and you get to know everyone. I just
love the cast and crew and we all became really close. I had been
a transplant from New York and I didnt know a lot of people
in LA, so to come into that big, warm environment was great.
Announcing our engagement to everyone was just such a thrilling
moment.
Did you have any regrets about Ninas end?
I wanted to show more backstory of who I was. They tossed it
around, but one thing they are really good at figuring out is how
to keep the storylines tight so people arent overwhelmed. I
knew they wanted to explore more and weave me into the British
guys story I was working with even more.
But overall, no. I know on this show particularly, to be a man is
very powerful. So the fact that they sort of made me like a man
means I got to do a lot of great things. But I was exhausted by
the end of it. As much fun as it is to play a villain, when you
are bringing a modicum of reality to it, it can be quite
draining. It was the perfect amount of time.
Was saying goodbye to the character for the last time
difficult?
It was very sad to say goodbye and you never really believe
its over, but at the same time I am so happy for their
continued success. The fact that it is in its sixth season
now we had no idea! Im so flattered and lucky that I
got to play Nina.
Killing Mrs. Bauer
Sarah: I remember thinking that killing Teri was really extreme.
Leslie has such a great sense of humor. I remember there was a
scene where were are fighting and I am packing up my stuff before
I kill her. They kept rewriting the scene, which she just hated.
She was saying, I am such a whiny bitch! Just shoot me
now. (laughs) At that point, we all had no idea
what incarnation the show would come back in. [The producers] had
talked about the show going backwards, so we all could come back
no matter what. They also talked at one point about making the
show an ensemble piece, where it was another 24 hours, but we all
played different people. So there were different thoughts being
thrown around about what they were going to do, so no one really
took it like it was over for [Teri]. Maybe Leslie Hope did.